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Comment 164 for Advanced Clean Fleets Regulation (acf2022) - 45 Day.

First NameDavid
Last NameAtwater
Email Addresspresident@gofds.com
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SubjectComments on the Proposed ACF Regulation
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CARB “Clean Trucks” Rule

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Here we go again…. Like the original “Truck and Bus Rule” that broke many Companies, (almost ours too) we have to change out our fleet with our money, on a government required timeline, with “future” technology without infrastructure available, in a plan built on pipe dreams and guesstimates about what the government power brokers want us to do.

Remember CARB’s MTBE debacle? CARB denies their involvement as they just required a “specification” that could only be met with MTBE at the time.  This created statewide pollution issues, some of which are still being cleaned up!  CARB did not pay for that! Or how about methanol fuels in bus fleets?  It rotted the motors from the inside out and was poisonous to humans costing CARB hundreds of millions of dollars to essentially force bus fleets to use the fuel and keep replacing engines?  Or what about hydrogen cars where the fuel was made from natural gas?  A few bucks spent there over how many years?  How many other examples are there?

Here is my primary groups of issues, in no particular order:

First: We don’t have the supply of electricity in the State needed for this government required transition.  And yes, I have 1200 solar panels on my property…. but that is one property, headquarters, not the other 10 places I have trucks parked around Central California.  By the way, I also had to put in a 250KW generator to keep my business running when the power goes out as without the Renewable Diesel generator, I cannot run off my solar power, that I have had for over 16 years (closer to end of life than I realized). 

Second:  These electrified trucks will not have a smaller environmental impact on the planet than the Renewable Diesel powered trucks we run now.  But there will be a GIANT COST!  This is a political decision, not a scientific one, similar to solar panels which are not recyclable, and windmills, that are bird killers and not recyclable either, but why look at facts.  What is the fine for each bird killed, the cost of picking up the ones you notice?  If I killed an eagle, I would be put in jail. All CARB’s” fines start at $10,000 per violation, how many birds have died for this eyesore of so called “clean” power.

Third:  All the battery minerals and components have to be imported from China, need I say more….National Security.  It takes about 500,000 pounds of mining to provide the minerals to make a 1,000 pound car sized battery. How much mining is needed when you require SUPERSIZING of these batteries for truck use?  Clearly CARB does not mind if the pollution from mining that occurs in a third world country with child and slave labor.

Fourth:  If we took all the trucks in one mid-sized county and electrified them today, it would take all the power available for every residence in the State

Fifth:  It takes how many hours to charge a class 8 truck hauling 80,000 pounds all day?  Is it all night?  MY fleet runs these trucks around the clock as it is the only way to make money off of the huge investment that CARB and other Regulators have pushed the pricing of these trucks to!  So, will I need a Day Fleet and a Night Fleet, so that I can be charging one while the other is running? Doubling the size of my fleet?  IS that a savings? Is doubling the number of vehicles needed to do the same work environmentally friendly?

Sixth:  One will never be able to load an electric powered truck transporting flammable or combustible liquids as they can never be shut off or de-electrified during loading.  Static Electricity, for the same reason, we cannot even have a cell phone on at loading terminals!  That is an AHA moment!  I know what will happen, cell phones will continue to not be allowed but you will make sure that “special rules” will be quietly forced allowing your giant static generators with constantly running electric systems, including fans, be allowed access to load at any time.  Probably by declaring the equipment “explosion proof” as all electrical systems are required to be in terminals and refineries.

Seventh:  There is no available FAST charging infrastructure available for heavy duty trucks nor enough power from the starved Statewide grid, with no capacity in the power lines in the streets as they were not built with this load in mind, with no charging stations at our terminals.  What is all this infrastructure going to cost? Then what can I connect those systems into?  What will my power bill be for fast charging?  More than overnight parking, but we don’t park day or night.

Eighth:  The batteries are non-recyclable and must be replaced regularly.  As will my solar panels in a few years.  A big dump run coming …. will CARB be helping me pay to replace them?  Is the future cost of recycling built into your models?  The stupidest thing on the planet is that we still bury our “waste.”  In a previous life I used to sell car batteries that to this day are still over 90% recyclable.  I bet that I could never acquire a permit to build a plant to recycle these electric car batteries in California, even if the technology existed!

Nineth:  Our power grid is shrinking, not growing!   The same people that are desperate for electrification of transportation want Diablo Canyon, with 2.256 Gigawatts of power, to be closed 25 years early, AND the same people want all the dams in the State removed, they used to generate some power also.  Have we also forgotten about high speed rail to nowhere?  It will demand a lot of power to run 250 miles per hour from San Francisco to Los Angeles!  The first section of track  will run $100 billion before it is complete.

Tenth:  CARB is picking winners and losers economically with no free market involvement.  Tesla has gotten many BILLIONS of dollars and still almost went broke, and the owner is now the richest man in the world.  Their cars have been the worst built, ranked by independent studies, for years, but you love them, and continue to “sponsor” them.  Without huge subsidies, electrification would die quickly as the free market recognizes that “market technology” is not really there yet.  So, CARB’s response is ….. let’s force it.  Like the Governor’s ICE ban.

Eleventh:  With all that will need to be spent to make this Truck rule eventually happen, from power, to grid, to vehicles, the State could give every homeless person in the State support and a place to live for life which actually might be more environmentally friendly due to the elimination of the environmental impact that results from homelessness.

CARB is so myopic in its focus.  People are actually dying on the streets every day, contrary to your “statistical estimates” of possible lives saved.  Do we have our priorities straight here?  CARB’s is clearly focused on power and politics, “how do we best justify the control we want over every single facet of the lives of people in CARB’s serfdom” rather than basing decisions on the science.  

I have one important thought and comment that needs to be made in light of recent news of major disasters that befall us in California and across the country; that is, having all of our emergency response “eggs in one basket” namely electric light, medium, and heavy duty electric vehicles needed for emergency response.

As a Company that has always been there through earthquakes, major snow events, huge deadly fires, and floods AND PANDEMICES, we have been participating in emergency response preparedness for decades. 

I know that electrification of emergency and other response vehicles will make any disaster recovery and response much worse in life and death situations.  In most, if not all of the disasters experienced in our State, one of the first effects experienced is that the electrical grid goes down.  Hence the requirement for back-up power for hospitals, police facilities, California’s Office of Emergency Services, and media outlets to name but a few, that also includes OUR solar powered offices with a standby 250KW generator that is regularly utilized often in area outages to keep our systems and equipment coordination running.

Just consider last month when the Governor was telling those with electric vehicles to not charge them due to overwhelming grid stresses.  This was not even coupled with another disaster, like a fire or earthquake…. or any other disaster where major response is required.

  With electric vehicles you cannot “get there from here!”  EVEN in that grid demand problem we experienced, our companies were involved working to keep power plants up with what they needed to generate power at record levels.  We CAN deliver fuels and products needed without electricity as all our vehicles are independently powered and carry fuel that is turned into power without electricity or using standby power.  We cannot use electric vehicle to fill those roles.

THE ASK:  Please exempt ALL vehicles that work to keep our State operating during crises.  That would include:  Fire Trucks, Ambulances, Police vehicles, utility vehicles, the many State, County, and local agencies vehicles that respond when disaster strikes. 

Exempt all the vehicles that deliver food prepared and grocery and fuel as these vehicles provide fuel for evacuations, and response and food to keep people alive right now.  The list would be large but the need during these events would be immediate and demand all resources available to preserve human life and health.

I appreciate your thoughts to make commute and local errand cars less polluting but using a broad brush to shut down emergency response vehicles, food and fuel deliveries  and support vehicles for example, lacks adequate consideration of the redundancy needs required for large crises. 

Remember, in all large emergencies, it is ALLWAYS, “All Hands on Deck.”

 

David Atwater


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