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Comment 43 for Electrify America's proposed Cycle 2 ZEV Investment Plan (vw-zevinvest-c2bd-ws) - 1st Workshop.


First Name: Ranji
Last Name: George
Email Address: easy7blue@gmail.com
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Subject: ARB should allow H2 FCEV to compete with BZEVs
Comment:
It is with great sadness to note that ARB is showing open bias and
partisanship towards one form of ZEVS (namely Battery ZEVs) and
ignoring the other form of ZEV, namely hydrogen fuel cells (H2
FCEVs).  BZEVs offer numerous air quality benefits but so do
hydrogen fuel cells.  

However Hydrogen fuel cells offer substantial more advantages than
BZEVs. Let me list the top 4:

Advantage 1) Disposal issues.  Hydrogen fuel cells don't have the
same scale of battery disposal problem at the end of battery life. 
 Each BZEVs have 4 battery packs with numerous cells in each pack. 
These batteries will be consumed in 10 to 12 years, after which
these may be used in stationary sources for few more years.  Then
what?  These HUGE number of spent batteries (in the tens of
millions) have to be recycled.  How many recycling plants have been
built? Currently, lead acid batteries have very advanced recycling
plants but these recycling plants emit lot of toxic waste:  in air,
groundwater, solids.  Lithium ion batteries may not emit that much
but still there is a potential for serious environmental discharge.
 Has there been any estimates of how many recycling plants that
need to be made?  Why is ARB not addressing this issue?  The fact
that air pollution is reduced with batteries, but solid waste and
air waste are created when batteries are recycled should awaken our
senses

Advantage 2)Potential recycling plants in EJ communities.  
Recycling plants are constructed where land is cheap and labor is
plentiful.  These are typically in EJ communities.  Beverly Hills
and Bell-Air will not allow battery recycling plants in their
neighborhood.  California has done a tremendous job in highlighting
the environmental distress currently present in EJ communities . 
By emphasizing BZEVs, at thee expense of H2 FCEVs, we are
indirectly creating another hazardous waste generating recycling
plant industry in EJ areas.  Let's be cognizant of this danger.


Advantage 3)Spent batteries may end up as waste.  There is no
assurance that  recycling plants will be constructed in enough
numbers and on a timely manner to recycle ALL of the spent
batteries emanating from BZEVs.  As a result, many batteries (we
are talking millions here) may find itself being disposed off in
the landfill, waste or shipped to third world countries for
disposal.  Is this fair?  Aren't we creating a major environmental
crisis - potentially on the scale of plastic disposal crisis we
have today?

Advantage 4) Lithium availability.  Lithium availability for large
scale penetration of BZEVs is not assured given that lithium mines
are spread out in diverse sometimes politically unstable
geographical regions.   One or two countries can defacto take over
these mines and can create a cartel like situation where general
availability can be severely limited.  Such restraints do not exist
for H2 FCEVs.  Platinium is used in H2FCEVs but the quantities are
limited and are mainly sourced from South Africa and other stable
countries.

Summary.  Given (1)the serious disposal concerns of tens of
millions of spent batteries, (2) the potential for creating a
hazardous recycling industry in EJ communities, and (3) that raw
lithium may face an OPEC cartel type of situation, I would urge ARB
to give H2 FCEVs adequate funding for infrastructure.  

H2 FCEVs is more sustainable over the long term than BZEVs.

Thanks
Ranji George
Please note, while I was at the SCAQMD, under Dr. Alan Lloyd who
later became the chairman of ARB, I was heavily involved at the
formative stages for both BZEVs and H2 FCEVs.  I support both
technologies, BZEVs for the short term and FCEVs for long term.

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Date and Time Comment Was Submitted: 2018-10-26 15:44:30



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